Mark Zuckerberg GRILLED by Senators Graham, Lee, Blackburn, Hawley and Kennedy
Graham: “Mr. Zuckerberg, you and the companies before us, I know you don’t mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands. You have a product — (Cheering and Applause) — you have a product that’s killing people.” (Applause)
Lee: “Instagram recently announced that it’s going to restrict all teenagers from access to eating disorder material, suicidal ideation themed material, self-harm content, and that’s fantastic. That’s great. What’s — what’s what’s odd, what — what I’m trying to understand is why it is that Instagram is only restricting — its restricting access to — to sexually explicit content, but only for teens, ages 13 to 15? Why not restricted for 16 and 17-year-olds as well?”
Zuckerberg: “Senator, my understanding is that we don’t allow sexually explicit content on the service for people of any age. The — the —“
Lee: “How’s that going?” (Laughter) (Applause)
Zuckerberg: “You know, our — our — our prevalence metrics suggest that I think it’s 99 percent or so of the content that we remove were able to identify automatically using AI systems. So I think that our efforts in this while they’re not perfect, I think are industry leading.”
Zuckerberg: “Senator, our tools for identifying that kind of content, our industry leading, that doesn’t mean we’re perfect. There are definitely issues that we have, but we continue to invest — “
Blackburn: “Yes, there are a lot that is slipping through. It appears that you’re trying to be the premier sex trafficking site.”
Zuckerberg: “Of course not, senator. Senator, that’s ridiculous.”
Blackburn: “No, it is not ridiculous.”
Zuckerberg: “We don’t want this content on our platforms.”
Blackburn: “Why don’t you take it down?”
Zuckerberg: “We do take it down.”
Blackburn: “We are here discussing we need you all to work with us — “
Zuckerberg: “We do more work to take it down than — “
Blackburn: “No, you’re not! You are not! And the problem is, we’ve been working on this — Senator Welch is over there — we’ve been working on this stuff for a decade. You have an army of lawyers and lobbyists that have fought us on this every step of the way. You work with NetChoice, the Cato Institute, Taxpayers Protection Alliance and Chamber of Progress to actually fight our bipartisan legislation to keep kids safe online. So, are you going to stop funding these groups? Are you going to stop lobbying against this and come to the table and work with us? Yes or no?”
Zuckerberg: “Senator, we have a — “
(Applause)
Blackburn: “Yes or no?”
Zuckerberg: “Of course we’ll work with you on — on the legislation.”
Blackburn: “Okay. The door is open. We’ve got all these bills. You need — you need to come to the table. Each and every one of you need to come to the table and you need to work with us. Kids are dying.”
(Applause)
HAWLEY: “Let me ask you this. There’s families of victims here today. Have you apologized to the victims?”
Zuckerberg: “I —“
HAWLEY: “Would you like to do so now?”
Zuckerberg: “Well —“
HAWLEY: “They’re here, you’re on national television. Would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product? Show him the pictures. (Applause) Would you like to apologize for what you’ve done to these good people?”
Zuckerberg: “I’m sorry for everything you have all been through. No one should go through the things that your families have suffered and this is why we invest so much and we are going to continue doing industry-wide efforts to make sure no one has to go through the things that your families have had to suffer.”
Kennedy: “If you think that Instagram is not hurting millions of our young people, particularly young teens, particularly young women, you shouldn’t be driving. It is.”
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